In the Same Vein Podcast
Season 2
Episode 1 – On Surgical Stereotypes with Agnes-Forster, PhD
Jan Gao - recent graduate of our master's program - and I had the pleasure of interviewing the historian Agnes Arnold-Forster. We chat primarily about Arnold-Forster's recent book Cold, Hard Steel: The Myth of the Modern Surgeon, but we get into really interesting discussions about the role of historians in health policy and health practice, and how cultural surgical stereotypes and myths may discourage folks who don't "fit" those stereotypes from pursuing careers in surgery.
The Season 2 episodes will continue to come out every two weeks until the end of the semester and will feature some Rochester faculty as well as students from SMD, undergraduate programs, and PhD programs.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/470fGSE5lZA8nLr7ysBIRB?si=PeHejdgTRquLlgLK7ELRDg
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000729522483
Episode 2 – On Med-Psych Units with Marsha Wittink, MD , MBE
In this episode, medical student and historian of medicine Michael Healey, PhD serves as co-host as we interview Marsha Wittink, MD, MBE, academic chief of the Medicine in Psychiatry Division and medical director of the Medicine in Psychiatry Unit at the University of Rochester Medical Center. We discuss the collaborative and interdisciplinary work that occurs on medicine in psychiatry (med-psych) units, as well as how and why the health humanities and bioethics are intrinsic to that work. We also discuss the biopsychosocial model of medicine, paying attention to patient perspectives, and designing healthcare spaces for patient care.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7EZO6qNQkScxx7bRMK4dxL?si=HTKYPskfQNiuWlWvnLgB9A
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000731984069
Episode 3 – On Narrative and Emergency Medicine with Jay Baruch, MD
This episode - co-hosted with our fabulous medical student Priya Mandava - features physician and author Jay Baruch. We take his 2022 book Tornado of Life: A Doctor's Journey through Constraints and Creativity in the ER as our starting point to then discuss narrative and emergency medicine, the role of the humanities in medical education, chaos narratives and patient stories, and the role of compassion in medicine.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/50mxNC4PUeIZevYzWVZx0O?si=npa_tKgCSyuxWlWqxcPcXw
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000735082302
Episode 4 – On A Theory of Bioethics with David DeGrazia, PhD
We go philosophical in this episode, co-hosted by Ashley Labodda, a Philosophy PhD student at the University of Rochester. We have a discussion that is largely focused on David DeGrazia’s 2021 book, A Theory of Bioethics, co-authored with Joseph Millum, PhD. We speak about what new elements and approaches this book brings to the field of bioethics, as well as how many of these ideas apply to philosophy and to ethics beyond bioethics.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6UWKazjLIOSjIng1g7XqLu?si=v7ft2BGxShmoJ6bLjDRJ0g
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000737128129
Season 1
Episode 1 – On Medical Error with Danielle Ofri, MD, PhD
Welcome to the first episode of our new podcast “In the Same Vein”! In this premiere, our student co-host is the second-year medical student Isabella Cantor, whose personal experiences as a reader and as a healthcare provider led her to want to chat with the remarkable Danielle Ofri, MD, PhD. In this episode, we primarily talk about Dr. Ofri’s 2020 book When We Do Harm: A Doctor Confronts Medical Error. But in addition to discussing the complexities of medical error and how to process it, we also chat about emotions in medicine, the role of art and medicine in taking care of yourself as a doctor, and medical education.
Enjoy listening and please do subscribe so that you don’t miss any of the other episodes in Season 1!
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/43E5AF6Cf0hsD3snnKYZSp?si=0x4r0sXQR_SGhmwtGHfLEw
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000671429267
Episode 2 – On Emotions and Surgery with Michael Brown, PhD
In this episode, second-year medical student Spencer Mehdizadeh chose to speak to the historian of medicine Michael Brown about his 2022 book Emotions and Surgery in Britain, 1793-1912. We discuss anesthesia, pain, emotions, surgery, history, and the experiences of both patients and surgeons in the nineteenth century and today.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0OKIES1xkidjaBPxhxbJai?si=Ist1gNCKTMm0PCXQETltug
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-emotions-and-surgery-with-michael-brown-phd/id1768803040?i=1000673194663
Episode 3 – On Medieval Lapidary Medicine with Nichola Harris, PhD
In this episode, third-year medical student Caleb Prus chose to speak to the historian of medieval medicine Nichola Harris about her sub-field of lapidary medicine, or, the use of stones and minerals for medicinal purposes. We discuss how objects like coral, pearls, diamonds, amber, loadstones, and eaglestones were utilized in the medieval period (and ancient and early modern periods) as cures and for general health and wellness.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ruGUZ6CgC5Uxpx22lvQW0?si=m83Jh8BkTNuPbD_3HGZYLA
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000675340971
Episode 4 – On Beauty Ideals with Julie Starr, PhD
I had the absolute pleasure of working with second-year medical student Piper Schneider on this one. She's interested in plastic surgery and walked to talk to Julie Starr from Hamilton College about her book Modified Bodies, Material Selves: Beauty Ideals in Post-Reform Shanghai (Seattle: University of Washington Press, 2023). In this episode, we discuss the concept of tizhi, anthropological methods and the “data problem” in that field, and how cultural beauty ideals influence health, wellness, and medicine.
On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2SxhSybnu2pLhxWj0W1AAh?si=i94CULQDTaSSyn-ypU6n2g
On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000677123550
Episode 5 – On Resource Allocation with Jonathan Herington, PhD
I had the absolute pleasure of working with the undergraduate student Maya Daniello on this episode, in which we speak to Jon about the recent article “Investigating Ethical Tradeoffs in Crisis Standards of Care through Simulation of Ventilator Allocation Protocols.” We discuss ventilator allocation, the Covid-19 pandemic, racial disparities in resource allocation, and the difference between saving lives and saving life years. We also dive into big questions about this type of work: How do we translate bioethics to medical audiences and to other audiences? What are some of the benefits and some of the drawbacks of using data to try to answer thorny bioethical questions?
Jon will be serving as co-host for the final episode of Season 1, to be released in two weeks. So keep your eyes & ears out for that!
On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0xoojPJKcLkrguBEufZSK1?si=KTusTQYqTZK9hXSY2DWYMA
On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000678927459
Episode 6 – On AI in Medicine with Erika Ramsdale, MD
In this episode, philosopher Jonathan Herington and PhD student Adam DeDobbelaere interview physician, data scientist, and ethicist Erika Ramsdale. They start with a discussion of the 2024 article “Large Language Models in Medicine: The Potentials and Pitfalls,” before discussing a range of topics: ethical quandaries now and in the future of AI, automation bias, the use of AI by both patients and clinicians, “digital twins,” bias in AI, and the state of data quality and privacy in medicine.
Season 1, Episode 6, Jonathan Herington, co-hosted with Adam DeDobbelaere, "On AI in Medicine with Erika Ramsdale, MD"
On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7KBSNOnbv5C2CsOe0bjZnI?si=WVYJ4iu9Rw2uyja1guDezQ
On Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-same-vein/id1768803040?i=1000680609333